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I have changed the grade for libretto to 16 (from 17) since I think it would be pretty soft at 17.
Guidebooks listed on this site have the grade at 16 and 17, while the second edition of araps selected climbs (menz and tempest, 2008) has the grade at 15.
Climbed it last week (thinking it was a 15) and it was certainly harder than that.
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