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Benjamin Korff edited a topo and some routes at Grampians. 180 discuss 27 days ago

Created 1 topo and updated 4 routes.

Updated the route 22 Terminal Insomnia.
Updated beta description.
The One of the

best sport route of this grade in the 'Grampians'. Brilliant., Bbut unfortunately it seeps very heavily after rain.

Start: Starts just left of black streak on far left end of the Pocketed Wall. Belay off sling thread in pockets. Starts just left of black streak on far left end of the Pocketed Wall. Scramble up and place a sling thread for safety before the first bolt and belay from there or else directly from the bottom.
Updated the route 24 Cosmic Psycho.
Updated beta description.
Excellent with an exciting pumpy arete to finish. Excellent long moves through great pockets with an exciting finish. Start: Start 3m left of Blonde Ambition at a single BR belay. Start: Scramble up as for Warped Spasm, but start from the single BR on the right on the ledge.
Added beta description.

Excellent long moves through great pockets with an exciting finish.

Start: Scramble up as for Warped Spasm, but start from the single BR on the right on the ledge.

Updated the route 25 Warped Spasm.
Updated beta description.

Fantastic 'limestone style' pocket climbing up central black streak on the left side of orange wall. It's just beside a heavy seepage line, but only one hold seems to get wet.

Start: Belay as for 'Terminal Insomnia' at thread behind block on ledge. Start: Belay as for 'Terminal Insomnia'.
Updated the route 26 Winged Corpse.
Updated beta description.

The home of the 'regular' pocket and an excellent hard climb. Wild overhung steepness through cave on left end of main crag with a dubious enhanced start. Bouldery from start to finish with some very funky moves. down low.

Updated beta description.

The home of the 'regular' pocket and an excellent hard climb. Wild overhung steepness through cave on left end of main crag with a dubious enhanced start. Bouldery from start to finish with some very funky moves. down low.

Neil Monteith started this discussion 27 days ago.

Im confused why you felt the need to modify this route description? The info you deleted was factual and has merit.

Benjamin Korff replied 27 days ago.

Well, I would not call it a cave and to me there was nothing dubious about the start. So when I read the description before trying the climb I was a bit confused, what was meant about the start. Also I found funky moves not only at the start but all the way through. Happy to undo those changes if you prefer.

Neil Monteith replied 27 days ago.

The start is chipped (super dubiois!). Please undo the changes - thanks!

Benjamin Korff replied 27 days ago.

ah you mean before the pockets?

Benjamin Korff replied 27 days ago.

it's back to how it was. not fully convinced though anyhow, great route, I loved the climb!

Neil Monteith replied 27 days ago.

Those pockets aren't natural! The "cave" description references the fact it's more overhung and eroded than the walls on either side - you can climb the route in the pouring rain. Glad you enjoyed the route - it's somewhat controversial - it once had a batman start where the pockets now are.

Benjamin Korff replied 27 days ago.

Okay, I understand now. Didn't even notice the pockets were not natural, so maybe an additional sentence about what makes up the dubious nature, would round up the description of this route, at least for unaware climbers like me