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Sat 21st Nov 2015 - Mt Beerwah | ||||||
North-east face | ||||||
2 | ★★ East Beerwah | 390m | ★★★ Classic | |||
Great route, great views. Fun day out.
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Sun 30th Aug 2015 - Mt Ngungun | ||||||
Andromeda | ||||||
15 18 | ★ Dark Matter | 17m, 6 | Average | |||
I did not think this was much easier than Worm Hole and that was tricky for an 18.
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18 19 | ★ Worm Hole | 17m, 5 | ★ Good | |||
Quite tricky for the grade.
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14 | ★ Event Horizon | 17m, 4 | Average | |||
11 | ★ Nebula | 10m, 3 | Average | |||
13 | ★ Star Dust | 17m, 4 | Average | |||
Easy day out.
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Sat 25th Apr 2015 - Mt Tinbeerwah | ||||||
Main Wall | ||||||
15 | ★★ Me And My Dog - with Rose | 45m, 11 | ★★★ Classic | |||
Great route, I must have missed at least one bolt that put me a LONG way above the gear in the middle, kept a cool head and felt good!
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17 | ★★ Sports Fan - with Rose | 45m, 11 | ★★ Very Good | |||
Very nice route. The fun moves through overhang are well protected. Crux is finding the carrots!
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14 | ★ Degrees Of Freedom - with Rose | 35m, 7 | Average | |||
One tricky section at the start then just stepping up blocky slab for 25m.
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Mon 10th Nov 2014 - Kangaroo Point | ||||||
Left Main Wall | ||||||
12 | ★ Date Anatomy | 16m, 4 | ★ Good | |||
Sat 19th Jul 2014 - Mt Maroon | ||||||
Viewpoint Buttress | ||||||
17 | ★ Mexicana | 60m | ★★ Very Good | |||
I think this is the route we climbed, headed left at the top of Rocks Of Honey first pitch and up into the nice crack system in the centre of the highest section.
There were a couple of committing scary moves down low with OK gear. the crux might be getting over the bush at half height! |
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16 17 | ★ Rocks Of Honey | 60m | ★★ Very Good | |||
Flaring 3 sided chimney on the first pitch is an excellent, really technical climb that requires a fair bit of thought. Good gear all the way.
Headed left and linked into second pitch of what I think was Mexicana, aesthetic long crack system up the centre of the highest part of the wall. |
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16 15 | ★ Mettiste | 60m | ★★ Very Good | |||
Climbed the first pitch of this with leaning hand crack, then went around the arête on the right up to tree and continued to large ledge up thin corner which might have been second pitch of Rocks Of Honey.
First pitch is great with good gear and hand jams. Second pitch was really good as well what ever it was but scary for the second because the traverse is very hard to protect for the second. |
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Sat 7th Jun 2014 - Brooyar | ||||||
Eagle's Nest | ||||||
15 | ★ Miss Kandy Kane | 20m, 5 | ★ Good | |||
I thought this would be better given the popularity, the rock is turning back into sand up top! The bolts at the chains are looking pretty ordinary as well, some glue-ins are in order.
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Fri 6th Jun 2014 - Brooyar | ||||||
Black Stump Buttresses | ||||||
15 | ★ My Brothers Keeper (My brothers crack whore girlfriend) | 10m, 5 | ★★ Very Good | |||
Steep, low grade and fun leading.
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13 | ★ One Legged Dog | 18m, 7 | ★ Good | |||
Warm-up and rope up for friends. Fun low grade climb.
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Sat 15th Mar 2014 - Brooyar | ||||||
Eagle's Nest | ||||||
17 | ★ Little Ray Of Sunshine | 45m, 10 | ★★ Very Good | |||
Thought I'd done this before but must have ticked this previously when I was actually on 245T. I got a bit confused at the tricky overhang up top. It's easy once you commit.
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Fri 14th Mar 2014 - Brooyar | ||||||
Green Lane | ||||||
18 | ★ Herb's In The Fernery | 15m, 3 | ★ Good | |||
Pretty tough getting through the roof. Interesting top out.
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16 | ★ New Day Rising | 15m, 3 | ★ Good | |||
Warm up, nice easy climb, nothing really memorable.
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Sat 15th Feb 2014 - Mt Ngungun | ||||||
Lower Cliffs The Lower Main Cliff | ||||||
15 | ★★ Get Into The Groove - with dave kenny | 50m, 7 | ★★ Very Good | |||
The second pitch is magic and on its own it is a classic, but the first pitch is pretty ordinary. The run outs might freak out new leaders. Could be done with only a set of slings to protect the first pitch (there is no gear other than the trees anyway), just clip the first bolt on P2 and stay attached to the tree to belay.
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Sat 1st Feb 2014 - Pages Pinnacle | ||||||
18 | ★ TOS | 12m, 8 | ★★ Very Good | |||
Yep, pumpy like they say! Great fun and a route I can see myself doing many times.
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16 | ★ What Were We Thinking | 20m, 8 | Average | |||
There is no escaping it, the rock is terrible but the climbing is actually fun. Should clean up eventually.
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14 | ★ I'm Lichen It More | 20m, 8 | Average | |||
Super easy but fun, good for beginners.
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Fri 27th Dec 2013 - Kangaroo Point | ||||||
Left Main Wall | ||||||
19 | ★★ Surrender | 20m, 5 | ★ Good | |||
Harder on the head than the arms, those ledges are ever present. Nice moves though. It would be a great climb if the first three bolts were reshuffled and maybe another added low down.
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Thu 19th Dec 2013 - Mt Tibrogargan | ||||||
Carborundum Wall | ||||||
15 | ★ Patience Crack | 100m | ★★★ Classic | |||
Dan led P1, I led 2 and 3 combined. Excellent climb, gear and exposure. Only just managed to link P2 and 3 with a 50m rope and a little simu-climbing. Some tricky moves in there for a 15.
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Mon 2nd Dec 2013 - Mt Tibrogargan | ||||||
Slider Wall | ||||||
17 | ★ Blowing Bubbles | 15m, 4 | ★★ Very Good | |||
Fun climb, interesting moves.
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16 | ★ The Horse | 12m, 4 | Average | |||
Tricky little start but it is all over quickly and turns into easy gerneric tibro.
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15 | ★ Such A Nice Monster | 15m, 4 | ★ Good | |||
Jugs... on Tibro... that don't pull off... wish I'd known earlier!
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Sat 16th Nov 2013 - Serpent | ||||||
Serpent Wall | ||||||
13 | ★ Off With The Pixies | 18m, 3 | Average | |||
Pretty unmemorable. You would not want to fall though.
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Sat 24th Aug 2013 - Brooyar | ||||||
Eagle's Nest | ||||||
15 | ★ Tea for 2 | 35m, 10 | ★★ Very Good | |||
Great fun long climb.
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Fri 23rd Aug 2013 - Brooyar | ||||||
Point Pure | ||||||
15 | ★★ Coco Pops | 30m, 7 | ★ Good | |||
Jugs all the way and pretty easy climbing but super runout in a couple of locations. Pretty sustained as well. Just forget the bolts and climb! Might not be the best beginner lead.
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Fri 23rd Aug 2013 - Brooyar | ||||||
Hammerhead Rock | ||||||
16 | ★ Becalmed | 13m, 6 | Average | |||
Start is vaguely reminiscent of English gritstone... If only it did not turn to sand under foot. Fun headwall.
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18 | ★ Hook Line And Sinker | 10m, 5 | Average | |||
Awkward crux that is harder than expected looking from the ground.
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18 | ★ Chironex | 8m, 3 | ★ Good | |||
Tough little move to the 3rd bolt.
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15 | ★ Irukandji | 7m, 2 | ★ Good | |||
One move but a fun little climb.
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Sat 10th Aug 2013 - Redcliffs | ||||||
Send in the Clowns | ||||||
14 | Cracked Glass | 15m | Average | |||
Shitty gear down low, fun middle section, tricky finish.
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Sat 10th Aug 2013 - Redcliffs | ||||||
Trad bumblies | ||||||
16 | Trad Bumblies Revenge | 5m | Don't Bother | |||
Hard start, really crap rock and only 7m high. Enough said.
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13 | Afternoon Delight | 5m | Don't Bother | |||
What a waste of time.
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Mon 15th Jul 2013 - Mt Tibrogargan | ||||||
Desperation Wall | ||||||
17 | ★★ Zeitgeist - with Dan | 110m | ★ Good | |||
Rain held off long enough to get up this. Fun first pitch but the second two are pretty generic. I led pitches 1 and 3, Dan led pitch 2. Skipped many bolts on the third pitch to reduce drag and eliminate backcleaning (otherwise requires about 16 draws).
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Mon 15th Jul 2013 - Mt Tibrogargan | ||||||
Carborundum Wall | ||||||
17 | ★★ Remains Of The Day - with Dan | 140m, 22 | ★★ Very Good | |||
Pitches 1, 2, 3 and got rained off so rapped. Dan led 1 and 3, I led 2. Pretty sketchy first pitch in the wet.
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Mon 3rd Jun 2013 - Kangaroo Point | ||||||
Right Main Wall | ||||||
18 | ★ Stoat Clips Bolts | 18m, 6 | ★ Good | |||
This is a good climb, it is just not so popular because of the lack of chains. Pretty sustained and easy to get all crossed up if not thinking about where you're going.
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11 | ★ Play School | 10m, 3 | Average | |||
Ok beginner lead, pretty uninspiring.
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Sat 1st Jun 2013 - Mt Tibrogargan | ||||||
Desperation Wall | ||||||
8 10 | ★ Orpheus | 150m | Average | |||
Finally found out that this is the climb we did ages ago (date guessed). I just saw the decent looking corner on the way to Prometheus and decided to go up that. Thought we were pioneering an epic new route... but really you can do whatever you want on this section of Tibro. Rapped down caves route. Great day out!
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Sun 19th May 2013 - Brooyar | ||||||
Eagle's Nest | ||||||
14 | ★ 2 For Tea | 32m, 9 | ★ Good | |||
A good climb but probably pretty average for the crag. There are a few reachy moves and there is no way that finish on the overhung headwall is a 14, closer to a 17 or so. The second last bot is in a terrible spot leading to some heinous rope drag if you're belaying up a second.
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17 | ★★ Free Range Heggs | 20m, 8 | ★★★ Classic | |||
I'm going to call this one a classic. Fantastic exposure and interesting moves up some crazy rock.
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Sat 18th May 2013 - Brooyar | ||||||
Black Stump Buttresses | ||||||
17 16 | ★ Snake Charmer | 15m, 7 | ★★ Very Good | |||
Quality climb and surprising moderate given the steepness. Ironically there was a baby brown snake enjoying the sun in a hole just before the second last bolt. Keep calm, clip and carry on.
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Sat 18th May 2013 - Brooyar | ||||||
Point Pure | ||||||
13 | ★★ The Great Barrier Reef | 20m | ★★★ Mega Classic | |||
Amazing, got to be one of the best thirteens in the country. More than worth the time spent raping in.
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15 | ★ MD | 30m, 8 | ★ Good | |||
First climb in a while, pumpy when you've got no strength left.
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Fri 19th Apr 2013 - Kangaroo Point | ||||||
Left Main Wall | ||||||
14 | ★ Tiger's Tail | 18m, 5 | ★ Good | |||
Fun easy route.
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16 | ★ Robbie's Robust Runners | 20m, 5 | Average | |||
Not bad, interesting getting into the chimney.
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Sat 23rd Mar 2013 - Mt Ngungun | ||||||
Upper Cliffs The Upper Main Cliff | ||||||
15 | ★★★ Icehouse - with Snapple | 40m | ★★★ Classic | |||
More a test of your head than your arms, 50m is a long way to keep you sh1t together. I almost lost it when I found myself at the crux, 40m off the deck and with a couple of suspect cams 4m below my feet. Staring at three perfect hex placements does not help upward progress when there are no hexes left on your harness. So a few deep breaths and I ran it out to the wide crack where with great relief I jammed in the #3 and dispatched the last few meters. WooooHoooo!
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Sat 9th Mar 2013 - Mt Tibrogargan | ||||||
Desperation Wall | ||||||
16 | ★★ Line Of Credit - with Tigz | 70m, 23 | ★★ Very Good | |||
We defied Mother Nature and her rainy ways. She said f u and opened up the skys when I was at the 6th bolt on P1, nothing like leading tibro in the wet! It dried up and pitch two was fantastic.
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Sun 3rd Feb 2013 - Mt Ngungun | ||||||
Upper Cliffs Nursery Cliff | ||||||
12 | ★ Air Line - with Widdim | 20m | ★★ Very Good | |||
Slightly awkward down low then jugs to the top!
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8 | ★ Cold Girl - with Widdim | 20m | ★★ Very Good | |||
Distinctly without ledges that usually mare easy climbs in the glasshouse. Fun climb, plenty of gear.
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8 | ★ Walk The Line - with widdim | 20m | ★★★ Classic | |||
Really good climb at the grade. I'm not used to having this much gear in the Glasshouse!
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Thu 1st Nov 2012 - Mt Tibrogargan | ||||||
Desperation Wall | ||||||
10 | Head In The Trees | 15m | Average | |||
More interesting way to start Prometheus I. Guess at date.
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Sun 7th Oct 2012 - Kangaroo Point | ||||||
Right Main Wall | ||||||
A1 | ★ Hanger Wall | 18m, 15 | ★ Good | |||
Aid effiency practice... 22mins ground to ground going to chains on right. 10 mins faster than previous attempt!
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Sun 30th Sep 2012 - Kangaroo Point | ||||||
Right Main Wall | ||||||
A1 | ★ Hanger Wall | 18m, 15 | ★ Good | |||
Aid efficiency practice... 32mins ground to ground going to chains to the right.
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Sat 21st Jul 2012 - Mt Tibrogargan | ||||||
Desperation Wall | ||||||
4 8 | ★ Prometheus I | 120m | Average | |||
First "climb" since the shoulder injury. Climbing is pretty ordinary because it is a lot of bush bashing through ledges interspaced with sections of easy but very poorly protected climbing. But it is still a really fun choose your own adventure style climb. We knew where it started and where it ended, the rest we worked out by climbing upwards!
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Sun 17th Jun 2012 - Mt Tibrogargan | ||||||
Carborundum Wall | ||||||
17 | ★★ Remains Of The Day | 140m, 22 | ★★★ Classic | |||
Awesome! Leading the start of P3 is exciting! Led 1, 3, 4 and 5. Rob led 2. Gear required: #1 C4 top pitch 3. Single set C4 #0.3 to #2 and set BD stoppers on pitch 5. Rest is bolts. Rapped the route with 100m half rope (50m rappels) in three pitches, only just managing to link 4 and 5 with rope stretch. Linked 1 and 2 easy. Grade is a stiff 17 and pretty consistent the whole way except P5 at about 14.
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Thu 14th Jun 2012 - Kangaroo Point | ||||||
Left Main Wall | ||||||
18 | ★ Mank Mistress | 18m, 5 | Average | |||
Fully bolted, 8 hangars, no chains at top, must top out and belay second up to clear the gear. A little bit sandy but I enjoyed it in a masochistic kind of way.
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Thu 14th Jun 2012 - Kangaroo Point | ||||||
Right Main Wall | ||||||
16 | ★ Frontier Psychiatrist | 16m, 5 | ★ Good | |||
Better then you'd expect looking from the bottom... not too much bush bashing at all.
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Sun 27th May 2012 - Kangaroo Point | ||||||
Left Main Wall | ||||||
14 | ★ Pentennial Romanticide | 18m, 5 | Average | |||
Easy lap.
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Sun 27th May 2012 - Kangaroo Point | ||||||
Right Main Wall | ||||||
17 | ★ Dysentery | 18m, 6 | ★★ Very Good | |||
Great warm up, really fun climb.
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Sat 19th May 2012 - Mt Ninderry | ||||||
Caves Area | ||||||
19 17 | ★ Three Stroke Scree Slope | 15m, 6 | ★ Good | |||
This deserves extra difficulty grading just for the confidence you need to pull on those scary thin bits of rock!
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Thu 10th May 2012 - Kangaroo Point | ||||||
Left Main Wall | ||||||
16 | ★ Without Council Approval | 18m, 5 | ★★ Very Good | |||
Interesting climb, feels harder than the grade but once you get the moves it is pretty straightforward.
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15 | ★ Bottle Stopper | 18m, 4 | Average | |||
Easy warm up lead.
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Sun 22nd Apr 2012 - Kangaroo Point | ||||||
Left Main Wall | ||||||
15 15 R | ★ Wind in the Willows | 18m, 4 | Average | |||
Can you say super run out? Second bolt is twice as high as the first, WTF? Funny, I thought I read it was an well protected sports route... no lower off either... maybe I was not on what I thought I was.
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15 | ★ David Mac | 18m, 3 | Average | |||
Same old easy KP route.
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Tue 17th Apr 2012 - Kangaroo Point | ||||||
Left Main Wall | ||||||
14 | ★ The Duck's Nuts | 16m, 5 | ★ Good | |||
Super easy but fun
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16 | ★ The Bee's Knees | 16m, 5 | Average | |||
Easy arvo at the cliffs
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Thu 12th Apr 2012 - Kangaroo Point | ||||||
Left Main Wall | ||||||
14 | ★ That Boy Needs Therapy. | 15m, 4 | Average | |||
Warm up. Bit stressfull up top at night without a headtorch... thrashing around in the sand trying to find a hold by feel.
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Fri 6th Apr 2012 - Frog Buttress | ||||||
West of the access track | ||||||
12 | ★ Witches Cauldron Pitch 2 (Witches Cauldron) | 18m | Average | |||
Seconded first pitch, lead second. Damn that chimeny is tight!
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Sat 24th Mar 2012 - Mt Tibrogargan | ||||||
NE Buttress Sector | ||||||
13 | ★ Blabbermouth VS | 22m | ★★ Very Good | |||
Nice easy trad route with good protection, we went on to complete blabbermouth proper.
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16 | ★★ Blabbermouth | 200m, 6 | ★★ Very Good | |||
Great route, good rock, nice mix of trad/sport and plenty of air. I led 1, 3, 5 and 7, Ian made short work of 2, 4, 6. Variant start is a great trad route in its own right. We went off route at top of pitch 2 and ended up on El Schorcho (21). No wonder it seemed like a very hard 16! At the third bolt I and traversed right to the right line. Pitches 4-7 are pretty chilled after the first three. I soloed the last pitch which goes at grade 10.
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Sun 4th Mar 2012 - Kangaroo Point | ||||||
Left Main Wall | ||||||
14 14 R | ★ Cornflake Crack | 18m | Don't Bother | |||
Led on trad gear in the wet. It was very very sandy which did not inspire confidence. Good gear in the first half, bit sketchy up top with dodgy rock and questionable placements. No holds on the top out, just dig those fingers into the dirt and scramble! Glad to have done some trad at KP but won't be rushing to repeat this climb.
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19 19 R | ★ Arrow | 18m, 4 | ★ Good | |||
High first bolt, then only two more before the chains! Nice climb though.
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Sun 4th Mar 2012 - Kangaroo Point | ||||||
Right Main Wall | ||||||
16 | ★ Anonymous DS | 18m, 6 | ★ Good | |||
Fun little climb, going straight up the face after the last bolt to the chains is about 19, to the right is an 14.
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A1 | ★ Hanger Wall | 18m, 15 | ★ Good | |||
First aid climb, going to need practice to get things more efficient.
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Wed 29th Feb 2012 - Kangaroo Point | ||||||
Left Main Wall | ||||||
17 | ★★ Pass the Bosch | 18m, 6 | Average | |||
Good climb till the the last bolt, then all sandy through tree roots. Moves past first bolt are a bit tough for a 17, the rest is easy.
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Wed 15th Feb 2012 - Kangaroo Point | ||||||
Right Main Wall | ||||||
20 | ★ Pommy Bastard | 18m, 5 | ★★ Very Good | |||
Great fun, supprised this does not get more attention. I'd say it is an ego boosting 20 and it is really well bolted so never stressful. Those last moves up the chimmny are really fun.
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Wed 15th Feb 2012 - Kangaroo Point | ||||||
Left Main Wall | ||||||
16 | ★★ Halva | 20m, 5 | ★ Good | |||
Varied moves and positive holds all the way up make it enjoyable climbing. Very well worn because of the good quality citation and low grade.
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Mon 2nd Jan 2012 - Brooyar | ||||||
Black Stump Buttresses | ||||||
20 | ★★ Dreamcatcher | 15m | ★★ Very Good | |||
Really happy to have onsighted this, hardest climb I've lead in a while. Form slowly coming back. Make sure you go right at the last bolt... all that moss covered rock to the left is not a two star 20!
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17 | ★★ The Enticer | 14m, 5 | ★ Good | |||
Warm up for "Dreamcatcher", but fun climbing in it's own right.
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16 | ★★ Sun Chaser | 15m, 4 | ★ Good | |||
Fun climbing on a great piece of rock.
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Thu 29th Dec 2011 - Frog Buttress | ||||||
West of the access track | ||||||
15 | ★ Witches Cauldron (Variant Finish) (?) | 14m | Don't Bother | |||
Haha, did this years ago on my first trip to frog thinking it was Witches Cauldron. Pretty horrible as far as I can remember!
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Thu 29th Dec 2011 - Frog Buttress | ||||||
East of the access track | ||||||
11 | ★ Parson's Pleasure | 10m | Don't Bother | |||
I was looking for something to sooth my nerves after the last climb. This was easy but very dirty. There is way better climbing at Frog than this. It only sees as many assents as it does because it is in the shade all day.
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Thu 29th Dec 2011 - Frog Buttress | ||||||
West of the access track | ||||||
12 | ★ Witches Cauldron Pitch 1 | 12m | Don't Bother | |||
I was looking for a nice easy warm up but this turned into an ordeal! It is not technically difficult (although that chimney is not easy for really tall guys like me) but the problem is you can't clean this yourself! You cannot lower back down the chimney without getting your rope nicely jammed in a crack. To add to my torment I got a red C4 stuck which took me half an hour to get out. The final straw was getting the rope jammed in that crack on the pull! Arrg!
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Wed 28th Dec 2011 - Frog Buttress | ||||||
East of the access track | ||||||
14 | ★ Electric Lead | 26m | ★★ Very Good | |||
Great climbing, loved this route, again plenty of gear but also some spicy moves for a 14.
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13 | ★ Electric Mud | 10m | ★★ Very Good | |||
First climb at frog! Great intro, plenty of gear, not hard but still interesting.
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Sun 4th Dec 2011 - Mt Tibrogargan | ||||||
Desperation Wall | ||||||
10 | ★★ Black Orpheus | 140m | ★★★ Classic | |||
I led 2nd (crux) pitch, Jonothan led 1 and 3/4 (combined). I climbed the first pitch twice after I dropped our biggest hex at the belay, grrr! Second pitch did not seem too bad, hardly any worthwile gear on that slab but very easy climbing. 3rd pitch was great but insainly run out, Jonothan basically soloed it. On combined pitches 3 and 4 (55m) we only placed 5 bits of gear! Finished up the caves route and walked down the west face tourist route. Great day out!
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Wed 30th Nov 2011 - Kangaroo Point | ||||||
Right Main Wall | ||||||
15 16 | ★ Tombstone Row | 18m, 5 | ★ Good | |||
Nice easy little climb.
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17 | ★ Bombadil | 18m, 5 | Average | |||
Run of the Mill KP.
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Sun 20th Nov 2011 - Brooyar | ||||||
Black Stump Buttresses | ||||||
18 | ★★ Annabelistic | 16m, 7 | ★ Good | |||
Pretty typical Brooyar, little overhung, lots of holds, really fun.
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18 | ★★ Pink Panzer | 17m, 8 | ★★ Very Good | |||
Surprised this route has not had more ascents, great climbing, scary looking roof but big holds always within reach. Second you partner on that hanging belay, brilliant stuff.
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15 14 | ★ The Dog's Paw (Dogs Paw) | 15m, 6 | ★ Good | |||
Great way to get those sore arms back into another day of climbing.
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Sat 19th Nov 2011 - Brooyar | ||||||
Eagle's Nest | ||||||
17 | ★★ 2,4,5 T | 42m, 9 | ★★ Very Good | |||
First climb of the Brooyar trip and what an introduction, overhung and two spots high up but holds everywhere! Awesome.
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Sat 19th Nov 2011 - Brooyar | ||||||
Point Pure | ||||||
19 | ★★ Reid | 15m, 3 | Average | |||
I led this first, then went back on top rope to see how I could have done it better. That slab section up top is very technical with tiny holds and even smaller feed. Felt very run out, only three bolts... guide does say use 1.5 SLCD somewhere? Anyway, good change of style at Brooyar.
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Sat 19th Nov 2011 - Brooyar | ||||||
Eagle's Nest | ||||||
18 | ★ Prima Diva | 8m, 3 | Average | |||
Fun first move, rest is boring, and very sandy.
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16 | ★★ It's A Long Way To Tip A Fairy | 45m, 8 | ★★ Very Good | |||
Another great climb, the top overhangs look scary but the climb's bark is worse than it's bite, it's Brooyar and there are holds everywhere. Maybe a little run out but no need for natural pro as the description says.
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