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Batu Caves
Volleyball Site

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Volleyball Site
7a Pak Tan Lower Extension

Hidden route to left of the gear shed. An extension of an existing route starting on the upper platform. This route starts with a boulder problem straight from the ground and finishes with 15m of tufa dancing before the anchor. Easily a classic

5c+ A.P.

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6b Ants Cove

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M.M.M.

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6c+ Scorpion

1 Threaded + 5 Bolts

6c Malaysia Supreme

Share same anchor Scorpion

6b Tiger

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6a+ Kepala Naga

7 Bolts + 2 Threaded 7th Bolt added 26/08/23

6a Coves

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5c+ G. Lepak

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6b+/c $, RM

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6b+ Witness the tension

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6b La Nina

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6b El Nino

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6b Sundance

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6b Christmas Root

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6c Waiting for Visa

Retro bolting by original bolter in progress.

Danish

Open project. FA up for grab.

7b No Pian No Gian

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6a+ Sesat Habuk

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5c+ Elephant Trunk

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5c+ Like Father Like Son

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6b Like Father Like Son Extension

An extension of the route Like Father Like Son by Abang Man Dyno on 10/03/24, adds 4 more bolts through a tricky boulder problem right before the anchor.

6b Like Father Like Son Ext

An extension of the route Like Father Like Son by Abang Man Dyno on 10/03/24, adds 4 more bolts through a tricky boulder problem right before the anchor.

6b Five See

Original bolters of the crag has gain permission from the owner to climb on the premise. Be respectful and keep the place clean.

6b Doctor Batu

Extension bolting in progress.

Damai Wall
Damai Wall
Left Wall

This side of the crag has bare reddish rock from a recent clearing. It lies to the left of the drain on the left side of the Main Wall just behind the gear rental building.

The crag is North-facing, however, due to the proximity of Kuala Lumpur to the equator the crag experiences all-day sun from March to August. Conversely, the crag experiences all-day shade from August to March.

Damai Wall Left Wall
6b Unknown 1

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

6c Nyamuk Aedes

slab before the crux & light overhang to the crux

6b+ Unknown 2

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

6a Unnamed 3

Mixed protection 4 bolts and 5 threads which are in a poor state (Sept 2023)

5c Akar Molek

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

5c+ Muji

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

5c+ Puteri

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

6b Puteri (Variant)

Instead of starting on the left, start on the right side just right below the 1st bolt of Puteri. The start is a solid 6b bouldery problem. The rest is just 5c+. The Lower Off is a pair of old slings through bolts, not a chain.

6a+ Unknown 3

Lower off is to left of large chain visible from ground

6a Unknown 4

Lower off is the large chain visible from the ground. Suggest 6a+ as start is much harder than route to right.

6a Unknown 5

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

6a Unknown 6

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

6b Base Jumper

Packs a lot of climbing into the first 3 bolts. Can clip the lower off and extend the route to the LO at the top of the cliff (33m with 2 extra bolts).

6a Senjang Gila

Original guide had this route as Senjang Gila, but at some point was renamed to Sunday. Reverted to original name but no change in grade

6a+ Mesin Jahit (Sewing Machine)

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

6a Sunday

Originally known as Sunday, but changed at some point to Senyang Gila. Reverted to original name with no change in grade

6a+ Aciaci Buka Pintu 6a+

Originally climbed by Akmal as Aciaci Buka Pintu but changed to TQ Dyork at some point. Returned to orginal name

6b 3 Brothers

Originally climbed and named 3 Brothers, but changed at some point to Singing Wall. Reverted to original name with no change in grade

Damai Wall
Main Wall

The crag is North-facing, however, due to the proximity of Kuala Lumpur to the equator the crag experiences all-day sun from March to August.

Damai Wall Main Wall
6a+ Aciaci Buka Pintu

Grade changed to match occurrence in Damai Left Wall

6b 3 Brothers

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

6a+ Jah Love Climbing

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

6a+ Water on the Rock

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

6a+ Sasau

P1 5c+ 22m 10 bolts P2 6a+ 25m 9 bolts

6a+ TJ

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

6b Ichineesanghait

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

5c Up Step

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

5c Duckula

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

5c Sweet Maria

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

5c Permaisuri

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

6b Redemption Song

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

6a Pink Diamonds for Everyone

P1-Climbs between the tufas immediately left of 'Granular Spindrift', then heads slightly rightwards to the 'Monkey Line' belay; 5b 25m.

P2-Step left onto the wall, and either pass the stalactite on the left to gain a faint groove that leads back rightwards across the wall, or alternatively climb the rightside of the stalactite (clipping the bolt) and then straight up the wall. Gain a small cave with a pillar (thread) and then a second larger cave with larger pillar; cam and thread belay, 5c 25m.

P3- exit the cave on the right with a high thin thread through the stalactite veil. Use the stalacite to gain the wall above, good cam placements, then step left above the cave and continue straight up to the Good Onion belay. Clipping the first bolt on P3 'Good Onion' reduces rope drag; 6a 25m.

5c Monkey Line

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

5c Granular Spindrift

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

5b unknown

Short route between Good Onion and Granular Spindrift.

5c The Bank Robber

P1 Climbs the first pitch of Redemption Song to belay under the small cave 25m 5c. P2 Leave the belay on the right hand side of the cave and climb the rib using trad gear (cams and nuts) then pass through the trees (slings) to gain the groove that runs up the left side of the Good Onion arete. Follow this to the top (cams, nuts and threads). Don't step right at the top to clip the last bolts of Good Onion. Use the Good Onion belay. 28m 5c P3 From the Good Onion belay climb the pocketed rock straight above the belay to gain the small niche (thread runer here). Holiday in the Bamboo Hotel continues straight up. Traverse left along the break towards the small tree (thread runner) and then step further left to gain the bolts of Redemption Song and the belay. 20m 5c. Abseil down Redemption Song

6b Good Onion

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

5c+ Reservoir Doggin'

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

6a Monkey Highway

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

5c Ghana Power

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

6a Moves like Juggers

climb pass the route Lead Man's anchor and continue to higher anchor where the 2nd pitch start. climb the line straight up until you see arete where the bolt start to go left up. recommended to carry 2-3 alpine quickdraw for avoiding rope drag.

5c Lead Man

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

6b Lightning Grip

Also, Route Extension: "Just realized" (6b) 25mtr. (Akmal Noor 2003) Original Lightning Grip anchor removed.

5c Golly Gully

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

6a Rain Man

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

6a Thunder

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

6b Monsoon

Monsoon got its name because it rained when they were bolting this route (or something to that effect).

6a Bad News

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

6a+ KL Connection

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

6a Virgin Climb

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

6b Crack X

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

6c+ Dry Season

Pitch 1

  • Climb straight up from the ground
  • Reach an anchor at approximately 10 meters in height
  • Do not stop at the anchor; continue climbing
  • The first anchor is on the left of the massive cave's roof

Pitch 2

  • Climb up and right
  • Pass a small tufa overhang, then you see the first bolt
  • This pitch is the shortest

Pitch 3

  • Climb straight up
  • End at the left side of a bush

Pitch 4

  • Climb straight up, then slightly right
  • Face the crux of the pitch, a slab where you start going up and right

Pitch 5

  • This pitch is not in the topo
  • Climb up through a big overhang under the base jumping platform
  • Still a project and ungraded, could be very difficult

Note: Ants are expected along the route.

6c+ Unnamed

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

6b X Foot

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

Damai Wall
Right Wall

The right wall is the area directly to the right of the metal yellow staircase (for access to the large cave above). A couple of routes begin below the large cave, and routes continue to the right.

The first couple of climbing routes navigate the root system of a tree protruding from the wall. there are some plants and bushes on the wall as no one cleans the daily. It is in a Jungle

Damai Wall Right Wall
5c Unknown 1

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

5c Unknown 2

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

5c Pokok

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

5c UnKnown 4

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

6b+ Bengwali Pewai
  1. First pitch. Sustain 10+ clips to the first anchor

  2. Second pitch. Very tricky 6b+ route with blind crimps and a lot of bad pockets. Anchor of the third pitch is near the tree to the right

  3. Third pitch. Very runout around 4m so its best to keep a level head.

  4. Fourth pitch. Tricky traverse to the right and on to the tufa. After that, 5c+ all the way

6a+ Unknown 5

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

6a Unknown 6

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

5b UnKnown 7

A short popular introductory route

6a Chimera

A real Chimera of a route - start up the old Unknown 7, continue straight up clipping the last bolt of Anchor or place nuts and small cams, then step left onto the steep cracked wall and go straight up using a couple of cams; at the final orangey/brown wall clip the bolt on the right (UnKnown 8) or place some nuts and cams, step onto the wall and fire straight up using either 2 bolts of Bengwali Pewai or placing large cams in the pockets. Lower off Bengwali Pewai

6a Anchor

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

6a Unknown 8

There is a poor thread beside the lower off point for Anchor which could be clipped, though there's a better bolt a little bit higher

6a Unknown 9

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

5c Unknown 10

The crag is managed by Gau Damai Extreme Park. The site has rubbish bins to keep it litter free. There are toilets but you must pay a separate fee to use them. There are often beginners courses run on weekends.

Entrance fee is 5RM for Malaysians and 10RM for visitors.

Helmets must be worn for both climber and belayer. You can rent one (but they are sweaty) at the entrance.

6a+ Unknown 11

Located on the left of Kek Lapis. Route is slightly shorter than Kek Lapis, crux part is slightly overhang.

Note that there is a severe rope drag on this route especially after you clip in right below the crux. 12 bolt and 2 threads.

6b Kek Lapis

Juggy crux with polished left foothold after the small cave (rest point). Advise to use longer draws to reduce rope drag.

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