Grade | Route | Gear style | Crag | Quality | Climber | Date | |||
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7a Hard |
★ Eagle Hotel
- with
Marion, m, mike
1
6b+
35m
lead by
Marion
| 140m | Kalymnos | Average | Sat 20th May 2023 | ||||
Somewhat dubious rock.Solid for the grades.
Had to work hard on every pitch except the first.Required a lot of grit and dogged determination
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6c+ |
★★ Ramisi Rock
1
6b
40
2
6c+
35
3
6b+
30
4
6b+
35
5
6b+
25
6
6b
35
| 200m | Leonidio | Wed 1st May 2024 | |||||
Very tireding and difficult route, mentally and physically. Every pitch is sustained and the bolts are quite distanced. Bouldery crux at the begining of the second pitch, reachy moves on pockets in the last pitch. Beautiful route, but if you're not climbing 6c+ comfortablly, you might not enjoy it.
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6c | ★★ Cornerstone - with berit, J_pal | 100m, 15 | Kefalari Area | ★★ Very Good | Mon 3rd Oct 2022 | ||||
Lost the approach and depproach path, try to follow blue spray dots. Route has some loose rocks, though it is very well equipped. During October sun until 14:00.
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6a+ |
★★★ Wild Country
1
5a
30m
2
5a
25m
3
6a
35m
4
5c
35m
5
5c
35m
6
6a+
20m
7
6a
30m
8
5b
30m
9
25.m
| 270m | Kalymnos | ★★★ Classic | Sat 19th Oct 2019 | ||||
Took the 7am boat, topped out 1145. Climbing wise not the best kalymnos has to offer. The starting traverse of the crux pitch was fun but most of the time is spent crimping on very sharp limestone. The rock on the 4th pitch is also a bit loose which I found out the hard way by taking a whip when a foothold broke loose.
The views and exposure are mind blowing though, definitely making up for the less than amazing climbing. |
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6a+ |
★★★ Gordian Knots
- with
S
1
6a+
25m
2
5c+
15m
| 40m, 14 | Upper Pinios Valley | ★★★ Mega Classic | Sat 22nd Oct 2022 | ||||
Well, this felt incredibly hard. I'm pretty sure that if you're used to the conglomerate and are able to read this route correctly, it would check out at the grade, but I just did not get accustomed to this kind of rock, so this felt probably like the hardest 6a+ I've ever tried to climb...
Nonetheless a great route. Steep, elegant and the pillar is just incredible to look at. |
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6 |
★★★ Gonia
- with
Scholi Mesou
1
6-
40m
2
5+
50m
3
6
40m
4
115ft
5
100ft
6
100ft
| 230m | Varasova - Kryoneri | Sat 12th May 2018 | |||||
We did the first 3 pitches. Beautiful.
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6- |
★★ Dohlenwand direct
1
6-
40m
| 150m | Upper Pinios Valley | ★★★ Classic | Sun 19th Sep 2021 | ||||
The last part of the first pitch (2nd on classic Meteora guide) is the most difficult.
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6c |
★★★ Ade kai Kali tihi Mages P3 (Ade kai kali tihi mages)
1
5a+
27m
2
6a
15m
3
6c
30m
| 72m, 9 | Heraklion | ★★★ Classic | Sat 11th Sep 2010 | ||||
A wonderful limestone journey with an exposed 3rd pitch wonder!
Relax and enjoy the ride!!!
A comfy cave to belay after the first pitch.
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6b+ |
★★★ Aghios Lemmy
- with
Yves Geiser, mattia
1
5c
20m
lead by
mattia
3
6b
20m
lead by
Yves Geiser
With the heavy backpack I was too pumped to finish it without one small hanger
4
6b
20m
lead by
mattia
6
6b+
25m
lead by
mattia
Nice! The crimpy move at the end of the route is hard again with the backpack | 160m | Leonidio | ★★★ Classic | Sat 25th Nov 2023 | ||||
What a nice multipitch! We were a group of three persons, so it was quite a whole day program. Watch out when rappelling from the first anchor that your rope doesn't get stuck... If you have two 80m ropes, you can rappel down in 2 go's.
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6b |
★★ Psycho 1 & 2
— 2 attempts
1
6a
2
6b
| 32m, 16 | Nestos | Average | Sat 2nd Dec 2023 | ||||
!!!Lots of loose rocks in the second pitch. Helmet necessary for the belayer!!!
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5c |
★★★ 3 Stripes
- with
Lukas Kiefer
1
4a
35
2
5a
40
3
5b
30
4
5c
20
5
5c
20
6
5b
30
| 180m | Kalymnos | Thu 20th Apr 2023 | |||||
with abseil above grande grotta 😎👌
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4b |
★ Mit 66 Jahren
1
3a
28
2
4b
35
3
4b
35
4
3c
30
5
3c
25
between 5th and 6th pitch i overlooked in the topo that there were no bolts on the stand. rather broad ledge, overclimbed it because i thought it'd come on the next ledge. built a stand 10m up, which was fine, but unnecessary.
6
3c
30
7
45
8
3a
35
9
3c
20
| 280m | Lassithi | ★★ Very Good | Mon 31st Oct 2022 | ||||
simply amazing for our first multi pitch (of more than 2 pitches). difficulty felt adequate and rather easy, nice to concentrate on the technical aspect of it. took us about 6 hours with breaks and lunch on a lion king's like ledge with an amazing view over the valley and north & south coast.
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8b+ | Donkey Kong | 30m, 15 | Leonidio | Fri 20th Nov 2020 | |||||
Suggests 8a+
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5a |
★★ Pan métron áriston (Pan Metron Ariston P1)
- with
M
1
5a
10m
| 10m | Iera Odos | ★★ Very Good | Wed 28th Feb 2018 | ||||
The last step is a really nice. Almost no holds, and good balance
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5a |
★ Tharseín chri (Tharsein Hri)
1
5a
10m
| 10m | Iera Odos | ★ Good | Wed 28th Feb 2018 | ||||
Not many peple on the crag, was oportunity to check the first pitched of the hard ones
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8a | ★★★ Fun de Chichunne | 40m, 28 | Kalymnos | ★★★ Mega Classic | Mon 24th May 2010 | ||||
Insane 40m roof, my hat is off to the bolter. What an epic that would have been.
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8a | ★★ Zarax - with Sammi | 20m | Kyparissi | ★★★ Classic | Sat 11th Nov 2017 | ||||
Super steep tufa blobs. Perfect read! Yaaaaaas.
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8a | Papacostopoulos Ext (Papacostopoulos) | 50m | Kalymnos | Wed 14th May 2014 | |||||
Really good quality route, bolts have seen better days.
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8b 8a | ★★★ Morgan Adam est une Andalouse | 75m | Kalymnos | ★★★ Classic | Sat 17th May 2014 | ||||
It's a journey! Crazy long route 75m! 3d climbing with a lot of rests! Thanks to patient belayers! Supposely 8b, but I can't really tell since I've onsighted it!
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7c+ 8a | ★★ Venganza del Silencio | 20m, 12 | Leonidio | ★★ Very Good | Tue 23rd Oct 2018 | ||||
Very cool. Complex. Pumpy. Happy with a second 8a onsight for the trip.
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8a | ★★ Chameleon | 45m | Kalymnos | ★★ Very Good | Thu 27th Sep 2018 | ||||
Really good endureance climb! Pumpy!
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8a | ★★★ Aurora (Aurora extension) | 57m | Kalymnos | ★★★ Mega Classic | Fri 28th Sep 2018 | ||||
Wow, sooo long! Mindblowing!
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8a | ★★ Full Job | 30m | Kalymnos | ★★ Very Good | Wed 3rd Oct 2018 | ||||
Felt easy - short boulder on crimps in the middle - Frankenjura 7c+
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8a | ★★ Play Buzuki | 30m | Kalymnos | ★★ Very Good | Thu 4th Oct 2018 | ||||
Boulder at the top, not very hard, Frankenjura 7c+ again
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8a | ★★★ Yamas | 40m | Kalymnos | ★★ Very Good | Wed 24th Oct 2018 | ||||
Sick! First 8a onsight. Best fight I've had I reckon. So close to punting on the techy stuff right at the top!!
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8a | ★★★ Blue Whale's Dick | 28m, 11 | Leonidio | ★★★ Mega Classic | Fri 9th Oct 2020 | ||||
first 8a onsight. Happy about this one, after three days barely being able to do the moves in 8a's, because of over 30° Celsius... Finally perfect conditions. Basically two cruxes separated by a quite good rest. Kneebars help! First crux on a slopy single-tufa. Second crux on slopy pinches and sidepulls.
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8a | Efforia | 40m | Manikia | Thu 12th May 2022 | |||||
8a in guidebook. Maybe easier
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8a | ★★★ Fun de Chichunne | 40m, 28 | Kalymnos | ★★★ Mega Classic | Sun 15th Sep 2019 | ||||
First 8a onsight. 35m tufafest with kneebars everywhere. Took me well over an hour to figure shit out. Spent most of that in the crux sacrificing calves and skin trying to figure it out with wethe feet:') wish more rooves like this existed
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7c 8a | ★★★ Zellweger - with Heidixe | 25m | Kalymnos | ★★★ Classic | Sat 15th Oct 2022 | ||||
Super fun route. May be the best one at Griffig's upper level. Get on it.
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8a ~7c+ | ★ Terra Mater - with Mari | 18m | Kalymnos | ★ Good | Mon 30th Oct 2023 | ||||
Very sharp crimps. Luckily I ticked this first go, don't think my skin would have survived a round 2
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8a | ★★★ Fun de Chichunne | 40m, 28 | Kalymnos | ★★★ Mega Classic | Tue 28th Aug 2012 | ||||
My best onsight performance ever. 1h30' on 45°/50° impressive overhang cave - this monster route fits perfectly my climbing style and this Os was my dream for two years... a long time waiting for perfect meteo and phisical conditions. (Pure onsight, no info, no kneepads)
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8a ~7c+ | ★★★ Fun de Chichunne - with Kat🏔 | 40m, 28 | Kalymnos | Mon 22nd Apr 2024 | |||||
40m of roofy jugs and kneebars. Two distinct bouldery sections but no moves that are too hard. I wouldn’t give this 8a with how many great rests there are. But the route does suit me well.
Such an amazing climb regardless!! An adventure through tufas and stalactites.
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8a 7c+ | ★★ Orion | 20m | Kalymnos | ★★ Very Good | Mon 22nd Sep 2008 | ||||
7c+
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7c+ | ★★★ Zawinul Syndicate | 30m | Kalymnos | ★★★ Mega Classic | Thu 3rd Jun 2010 | ||||
7c/c+. Amazing battle. Several cruxy sections between very good rests which may ruin your T-shirt.
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8a 7c+ | ★★★ Oeil de Bœuf - with Sammi | 40m, 18 | Leonidio | ★★★ Classic | Thu 9th Nov 2017 | ||||
First few bolts shared with Oeil de Biche, then goes right and up forever. I was "off" in about 5 places and managed to somehow get through with a combination of blind luck, rogue kneebars and when all else failed, dynoing. Soooo good.
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7c+ | ★★ The Path to Deliverance | 20m | Kalymnos | ★★★ Classic | Wed 1st Nov 2006 | ||||
8a/8a+
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7c+ | ★★ Angry Birds (Angry Bird) | 12m | Kalymnos | ★★ Very Good | Wed 7th May 2014 | ||||
Sweet route, a little bouldery getting to the 3rd bold and then like 7b to the top.
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7c+ | ★★★ Tsila | 30m | Kalymnos | ★★★ Classic | Fri 11th Apr 2014 | ||||
I had a good fight, really hard onsight... no chalk!
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7c+ | ★★★ Debout les Morts | 40m | Kalymnos | Thu 1st May 2014 | |||||
Nice route but could be 7c.
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7c+ | ★★★ Syrtaki Lessons | 25m | Kalymnos | Thu 1st May 2014 | |||||
Tough onsight! 2 boulders with plenty of rests, good route.
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7c+ | ★★★ Zawinul Syndicate | 30m | Kalymnos | ★★★ Classic | Sat 24th May 2014 | ||||
Beautiful route a little soft if you're used to use your knees on tufas.
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7c+ | ★★★ Super Lolita | 45m | Kalymnos | ★★★ Classic | Sat 12th Apr 2014 | ||||
Pumpfest with happy ending.
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7c 7c+ | ★★★ Little Bulbos | 33m | Kalymnos | ★★★ Classic | Thu 11th Oct 2018 | ||||
Jugs, jugs and more jugs
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7c 7c+ | ★★★ Amores Perros | 25m | Kalymnos | ★★★ Classic | Thu 11th Oct 2018 | ||||
Really good
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7c+ | ★★★ Aegena | 25m | Kalymnos | ★★★ Classic | Thu 11th Oct 2018 | ||||
Sweet! First Kaly 8a onsight!
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7c 7c+ | ★★★ Raptor | 30m | Kalymnos | ★★★ Classic | Wed 17th Oct 2018 | ||||
Really cool. Awesome crag! Guidebook 7c+
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7c 7c+ | ★★★ Kopa Kabana | 30m, 13 | Leonidio | ★★★ Classic | Tue 23rd Oct 2018 | ||||
Awesome! The most fun I've had tufa climbing this trip. Man it's pumpy... Guidebook 7c+
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8a 7c+ | ★★★ OAKA I.C. | 20m, 14 | Leonidio | Sat 1st Nov 2014 | |||||
FA
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7c+ | ★★★ Oeil de Bœuf | 40m, 18 | Leonidio | Thu 13th Feb 2020 | |||||
Liked finish more than left variant. Starting up Oeil de Biche and finishing up this one would prolly be even better.
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7c+ | ★★ Neska Polita | 20m | Kalymnos | Sat 27th Oct 2018 | |||||
just one hard boulder at the start.
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7c+ | ★★★ Little Bulbos | 33m | Kalymnos | Sat 3rd Nov 2018 | |||||
some very nice rock climbing
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7c+ | ★★★ Mr. Nice | 25m, 10 | Leonidio | ★★★ Mega Classic | Fri 1st Mar 2019 | ||||
Found it quite easy, maybe because it's like an indoor gym. Endurance on open crimps. Not 8a for sure.
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7c+ | ★★ Ethical Porn | 18m | Leonidio | ★★ Very Good | Wed 30th Mar 2022 | ||||
Varied, a bit sharp.
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7c+ | ★ Stolperstein | 30m | Leonidio | ★ Good | Wed 23rd Mar 2022 | ||||
7c+ in new guidebook. 2 move wonder.
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7c+ | ★★ Eye of the Cyclops - with Jascha | 20m | Kalymnos | ★ Good | Fri 15th Apr 2022 | ||||
Unfortunately, in terms of "quality of climbs", the tiger wins against the cyclops...
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7c+ | ★★ Angry Birds (Angry Bird) - with Heidixe | 12m | Kalymnos | Wed 21st Sep 2022 | |||||
Bouldery goodness
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7c+ | ★★★ Zawinul Syndicate | 30m | Kalymnos | ★★★ Mega Classic | Thu 12th Sep 2019 | ||||
Woop. First 7c+ OS. Getting stronger. Nice to have some hard moves in a line and not just endurance from bottom to top. Getting stronger. Getting into this tufa rumbling
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7c+ | ★★★ Syrtaki Lessons | 25m | Kalymnos | ★★★ Mega Classic | Sun 22nd Sep 2019 | ||||
Hmmmmmm. Reading between the line. Tad on the easy side if you read it just right. Don't read it right and it's hard!
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7c+ | ★★★ Andromeda - with Heidixe | 20m | Kalymnos | ★★ Very Good | Sun 27th Nov 2022 | ||||
Always walked past this and thought the top tufa looked like fun. It didn't disappoint.
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7c+ | ★★★ Gremlin Hannah | 30m | Kalymnos | Sun 13th Aug 2023 | |||||
Soft 7c+
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7c+ ~7c | ★ Tihos ton Aisthiseon / ΤΟΙΧΟΣ ΤΩΝ ΑΙΣΘΗΣΕΩΝ | 30m | Nea Iraklitsa | ★ Good | Sun 5th Nov 2023 | ||||
Nice route
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7c+ ~7c | ★ Hurricane - with Yannick Froese | 30m | Kalymnos | ★ Good | Thu 4th Apr 2024 | ||||
Probs more 7cish? Had to pull hard though when a few holds broke while entering the crux.
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7c+ ~7c | ★★★ Gremlin Hannah - with Kat🏔 | 30m | Kalymnos | Sun 7th Apr 2024 | |||||
Super fun moves. But ain’t no way this is 7c+
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7c+ | ★★★ Zawinul Syndicate - with haleymiles | 30m | Kalymnos | ★★★ Classic | Tue 9th Apr 2024 | ||||
First 5.13 (7c+) Onsight! Super stoked that I stayed calm and didn't blow it at the top crux! This route has a few big moves in between consistent, hard climbing. Good rests like a lot of these routes makes this one another world class route on this wall.
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7c+ | ★★★ Por una Sociedad con Mujeres Satisfechas - with haleymiles | 30m | Kalymnos | ★★★ Classic | Mon 15th Apr 2024 | ||||
A big fight!
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7c+ | ★★★ Boom Boom - with Kat🏔 | 30m | Kalymnos | Wed 17th Apr 2024 | |||||
Hard pulling face climbing! So so good, really happy I read it correctly and pulled through.
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7c+ ~7c | ★★★ Tsila - with Kat🏔 | 30m | Kalymnos | Sun 28th Apr 2024 | |||||
Amazing wondery climb. Cool moves everywhere! Just a shame you can get a hands free rest in the middle.
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7c | ★★★ Priapos | 40m, 23 | Kalymnos | ★★★ Mega Classic | Tue 11th Nov 2008 | ||||
More like caving than climbing. You can't really compare it to anything. My hardest OS on paper, and I did it in the sun, very un-me.
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7c | ★★★ Eros | 20m | Kalymnos | ★★★ Classic | Thu 1st Apr 2010 | ||||
Nice, seemed like jugs the whole way with one tricky move.
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7c+ 7c | ★★★ Adam | 32m | Kalymnos | Average | Wed 9th Jun 2010 | ||||
Big rope draggy fight. Used to be 8a, but people (including me) skirt the business so now it's 7c+
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7c | ★★ Neolithic Line | 16m | Kalymnos | ★★ Very Good | Mon 10th May 2010 | ||||
Super tufa
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7c | ★★★ Aegialis | 30m, 15 | Kalymnos | ★★★ Mega Classic | Sun 2nd May 2010 | ||||
Super kneebars, super enduro.
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7c | ★★★ Priapos | 40m, 23 | Kalymnos | ★★★ Mega Classic | Mon 13th Jan 2014 | ||||
The one I came for and save to the end almost. Dam glad I did as it got the onsight!! Dam long and upside down, was getting dizzy towards the end from being in a roof so long! A damp crux but I snagged it.
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7c | ★★★ Laurent... y a Quelqu'un (Laurent ... y' a quelque' un) - with Sammi, jjobrien | 38m | Kalymnos | ★★★ Mega Classic | Wed 30th Sep 2015 | ||||
No no no, maybe THIS is the best route on the island! Maxxed out the 80m rope.
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7c | ★★★ Les Dents de la Mer - with Sammi | 40m | Kalymnos | ★★ Very Good | Fri 9th Oct 2015 | ||||
Complete horizontal ceiling of stalactites for what felt like an eternity, really about 15m. Full contact grappling. Ab's were slaughtered, only to be further slaughtered by epic food poisoning that night. YAY!
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7c | ★★ Paris, Texas | 30m | Kalymnos | ★★★ Mega Classic | Fri 16th Oct 2015 | ||||
Superb! Very nice technical and hard slap, hard first fight at the first and second crux, climbed the second one a bit wrong Good rest and powerful moves in an overhanging wall to the top, after 30 m and a lot of pump I clipped the anchor very happily A route which contains everything from pocket and pinches to slopers, from technic to power and maximum power and indurence as well
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8a 7c | ★★ Zorba - with Sammi, jjobrien | 35m | Kalymnos | ★★ Very Good | Sun 29th Oct 2017 | ||||
Wow, okay. Low gravity day. Very pleased.
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7c+ 7c | ★★★ Kava Aris - with Sammi, jjobrien | 28m | Kalymnos | ★★★ Classic | Sun 29th Oct 2017 | ||||
Was feeling super confident and just went for it. Psyched.
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7c+ 7c | ★★★ Oeil de Biche - with Sammi | 40m, 16 | Leonidio | ★★★ Classic | Thu 2nd Nov 2017 | ||||
Athletic cage fighting on tufas and shallow pockets in steep ground, a weird slab, then a spectacular finale on juggy holes and tufa fins.
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7c | ★★★ Chipotle - with Sammi | 22m | Leonidio | ★★ Very Good | Sun 5th Nov 2017 | ||||
Mega tufa pumping action. Just made it.
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7c | ★★★ Gegoune | 40m | Kalymnos | ★★★ Classic | Sat 4th Nov 2006 | ||||
7c /c+
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7c | ★★★ Priapos | 40m, 23 | Kalymnos | ★★★ Classic | Wed 9th Apr 2014 | ||||
Spectacular line, It's really long. Feel like like 4 7a+'s on top of each other... I sat on at least 15 tufas.
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7c | ★★ Carnivore | 30m | Kalymnos | ★★★ Classic | Thu 17th Apr 2014 | ||||
Maybe softer if you're a bit taller, bib moves on big holds.
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7c | ★★★ Padroni e Pagliacci | 28m | Kalymnos | ★★★ Classic | Mon 21st Apr 2014 | ||||
Nice route
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7c | ★★★ Aegialis | 30m, 15 | Kalymnos | ★★★ Classic | Wed 30th Apr 2014 | ||||
Great tufa climb!
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7c+ 7c | ★★★ Kava Aris | 28m | Kalymnos | ★★★ Classic | Mon 8th Oct 2018 | ||||
Great climbing to a short crimpy boulder.
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7b+ 7c | ★★★ Laurent... y a Quelqu'un (Laurent ... y' a quelque' un) | 38m | Kalymnos | Thu 11th Oct 2018 | |||||
Jugs for decades
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7b+ 7c | ★★ Bert | 20m, 8 | Leonidio | ★ Good | Tue 23rd Oct 2018 | ||||
Tough and pumpy, especially as a warm-up!
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7c | ★★ Sirene | 33m | Kalymnos | ★★★ Classic | Sun 7th Oct 2018 | ||||
Great line!
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7c | ★★★ Eros | 20m | Kalymnos | ★★ Very Good | Thu 4th Oct 2018 | ||||
Shocking boulder in the beginning, not so easy, but good athletic climbing!
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7c | ★★★ Priapos - with Renna Clifford | 40m, 23 | Kalymnos | Tue 27th Oct 2015 | |||||
Hardest onsight to date. Drained the life out of me. 10/10 would die again.
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7c | ★★★ Priapos | 40m, 23 | Kalymnos | ★★★ Mega Classic | Fri 8th Nov 2019 | ||||
So so pumped at the end!
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7c | ★★★ Priapos | 40m, 23 | Kalymnos | ★★★ Mega Classic | Sat 2nd Nov 2019 | ||||
Dream come true... 40m tufa monster..
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7c | ★★★ Polifemo | 20m | Kalymnos | Sat 20th Oct 2018 | |||||
good stuff. holiday grades.
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7c | ★★★ Adam | 32m | Kalymnos | Sat 3rd Nov 2018 | |||||
getting a bit over these super long routes!!
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7c | ★★★ Padroni e Pagliacci | 28m | Kalymnos | ★★★ Mega Classic | Sat 10th Nov 2018 | ||||
Soft as butter but excellent climbing
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7c | ★★★ Priapos | 40m, 23 | Kalymnos | Thu 1st Nov 2018 | |||||
A great adventure! Punted the last moves of super priapos. Pulled the tail of my rope through the first half at the anchors of priapos. Epic. Probably spent an hour up there or more and another hour to clean the fucker!
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7c | ★★★ Priapos - with Christof | 40m, 23 | Kalymnos | ★★★ Mega Classic | Tue 27th Oct 2020 | ||||
Massive endurance Line, with a crux section half way up. 36min for the 40m, not a speed ascent but what can you do when there are about 30 kneebars ;-).
Sooo much fun. Clipping the anchor was a massive fight.
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7c | ★★ Kanena FA gia ton Mikro Ext | 45m, 18 | Leonidio | ★★ Very Good | Mon 28th Dec 2020 | ||||
~ 7b(+) Crux is in the First Pitch, 2pitch around 6c+
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7c | ★★★ Adam | 32m | Kalymnos | ★★★ Mega Classic | Thu 8th Oct 2009 | ||||
Superba! 30 metri super strapiombanti in 3 dimensioni. una super linea! che falesia... spero ch enon diventi mai come la grande grotta... se volete stare un pò da soli venite qui...
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