Ascensions dans Pilot Error Cliffs comme croix de types variés par Douglas Hockly

Wow! Super technical. You can have handholds or footholds but not both. Would be a very demanding lead. I think gear was OK but placing it very hard.

This seemed very hard today, super slick and greasy. The bottom flake felt slippery and insecure, the crux bit kinda desperate, the roof confusing and a bit runout and the top pumpy and thought provoking. Good climbing mostly, shame it's more porkulent than a laardvaark.

Poor rock in first half, gear's not that great either. Both get better as you get higher. Take 2 slings for jugs. Seemed stiff for 17 but somedays they all do.

I remember it being super greasy. Good, but not classic.

Great route. Classic Arapiles hard route, slopey and slippery and sustained. 6 days, including falling off slapping the last jug...

Good but not two stars as I recall.

Remarkably worthwhile as a second pitch to Astral Plane. Thin crux past old bolt.

Surprisingly ok

Tricky and surprisingly worthwhile

Harder and steeper than it looks

Remember it being ok but very hard for the grade and not that well protected. Harder than it looks!

Poorly protected, dodgy rock and not very good climbing.

I really like the top half, but not the bottom, and the crux is tweaky. Julian Saunders says he's had more business from the pocket on this route than any other hold in Australia. Beware.

Interesting climbing but wanders about. It'd be an ugly fall off the crux.

Surprisingly technical face to good crack. Good climbing.

This is the best option of all the various lines.

The bottom groove is interesting but large chunks of rock on the top wall are very hollow. Finish is fun, but you're better off doing top pitch of Lex if you can.

Don't really remember this but it looks a little dangerous.

The first pitch is slippery, hard off the ledge and short - not that great, but the second is good face climbing on (mostly) positive holds. Beware of brittle rock at the start.

Marred a little by the traverse in. Interesting climbing and fairly stiff for the grade.

I don't really remember it but thought it was good

Just one move. If you can do it, it's a great route. If you can't, it's rubbish.

Didn't seem that great - a few moves and it's over. And they're not great moves.

Great climb, steep and slabby. Hardest move is either the start or the slabby bit, cave is good if it's raining

Great fun. First bolt would be necky to clip if you were short. Topout is probably the crux but you can just lower off the chains on the lip - 23m to ground

Sustained for the first 6m then easy. Nice climbing.

First move is very hard - at least 15. The rest is good.

Seems very hard!

Bolt is not good right now!

Extremely dangerous - you'd hit the ground off insecure crux at 7m and the rock isn't great.

Disappointingly hard just when you think it's over.