Ascensions dans Grampians comme croix de types variés par Douglas Hockly

and this seemed more like 20 with a tricky start if you're not short. Wish I was short.

Pre clipped the second bolt for the full Dougpoint.

Really nice incuts. Seems more like 18 to me.

Really nice incut holds.

Great varied climbing on nearly all big holds

Great but a bit of a jug haul - liked the 23 more as it was more varied

Only dim memories but I think it was a bit scary at the start and hard after that

I found this quite technical and sustained - maybe it was just first route on a humid day

Easier if you're tall - one reachy move.

A good onsight by Wendy. Quite insecure after the crux.

Good, odd low angle fine grain rock, some delicate bridging

A very hard start, then ok, then something about the finish, maybe loose.

The route to do, good climbing and position.

Seemed very tough for 20, good locks but feet scarce on the bulge

OK climbing with a loose odd block on the crux. Happy to tr it.

Appropriately named - the top desintegrates into a dirt and chockstone filled groove. Go L for rock, if not gear.

Worth taking gear! While the new bolts are good, the old one on the crux don't look great, and the last bolt is not a ring, it's a FH so if you want to lower off a single ring use the second last bolt. It's also easy to traverse to the rings on Sprung.

An absolutely desperate start leads to easing climbing. Hard for 21, what would adam demmert know about climbing 21?

I thought this was lovely - great pockets, great rock, nicely sustained. Dodgy bolts but you can't have everything!

Recently attempted this with one #4 Camalot and backed off - the wires aren't convincing. Tried to do it in one pitch, which is also not great as the ledge causes the rope to pull out on your gear. Best to belay on the ledge.

Done cause it was raining and a bit was dry.

Wandery but has some good bits

Remarkably good, doesn't look that great from the ground. Slings and biners to rap off as of early 2016

Poor rock

Remember something a bit dodgy about this route - maybe not such great gear or loose rock?

Thin and hard

Very odd!

Dave and I both did it in bare feet - I'm sure it's easier without shoes as you can get your toes in the pockets for the dyno.

I didn't find this a soft touch at all!

Great technical wall climbing, ducks around the arete twice in the top half despite where the bolts are. Looks like a reachy crux. Not overbolted! Felt quite runout at times. Also felt like solid 20.

Good climbing, brittle rock - and thankfully we had Adam there to tell us to lower off a ring bolt before the top, where it gets really loose. Funky crux at the start - I could imagine falling off this a lot.

Climbing is ok but too loose feeling for me at the top. First bolt is very high - a good idea to stick clip as it's not easy up the slab. First crux is quite a way left of the bolt. Basically, there's better things here.

I thought this was at least 20.. though maaybe I was tired. Good varied climbing (even has a jam up top) and mostly good rock - loses it a bit in the middle.

I could have just got it wrong, but crux seemed harder than 18. A bit loose at the top. Can lower with care on a 70 - not a 50m pitch. Maybe there are higher chains also?

Great climbing AND rock. Goes on forever (did it in one pitch, 2 raps). Beware the start though, I've seen some good climbers spat off the ultra-technical first crux.

Great steep funky stuff. Pumpy to place the gear.